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Q: Why is NAACP equating Dogfighting with hunting?
They have set the black man back 50 years!
Dog fighters are often involved in the sale and possession of drugs, as well as illegal weapons. Dog fighters and spectators have a history of violent and criminal behavior towards people. 
Dog fighting is another entertainment activity for gangs. 
They train them on small dogs and cats to fight. Many times they steal them out of yards when people leave their pets out unattended all day. They end up as Pit Bull bait dogs. Also “free-to-good-home” animals can also end up for bait dogs. They’ll tape the bait dog’s mouth shut and just let the Pit kill them.
JAMES YOU SAID IT!

Where’s the “hunting” in dogfighting?
Brilliant-Thanks.

A: They are trying to vindicate Vick’s actions using the arguement, “Well (mainly white) people hunt and kill animals all the time for sport….But when a BLACK man kills (or, in this case, arranges for the killing of) animals for sport, The Media and “The Man”, throw The Book at him!”

There are SO many things wrong with this position.

Hunting, for starters, is hardly an exclusive white sport. Look at some of the folks icons on this sight. We have black hunters right here on answers! The U.S. , in all of her wonderous diversity, is ONLY 12% black. My statistic is old, and there may be a few percent difference currently, but my point will still show itself so bear with me. If you visited a well intergrated city that was 12% black, 60% white, the remainder being of all other ethnicities, you will see more white people walking down the street than black people. It’s just the math. Similarly, if you go out to the woods to see hunters, you will see mainly hunters who are white. But it gets even more complicated here. Demographically the U. S. isn’t thouroughly and evenly mixed by race in all areas. A large percentage of blacks live in urban areas. Rural areas tend to be of either mostly black or mostly white folks, but there are numerically more rural areas consisting of mainly white communities. If we visited the hunting woods in Louisana or Mississippi, we’d see more black hunters than white ones, for in some places, Black people are more predominate than Whites. I don’t know what percentage of the country hunts. I’d guess that it’s a solid 30%. Of that number, I’d hazzard to guess that it’s about 18% black, 75 %white the remainder being of other races. That means that a larger percentage of blacks hunt than the percentage of blacks in the population!
But the point is, just because if you could stand all the hunters in the country in one place and look at them you’d see mostly white faces, doesn’t mean that black people don’t hunt!

That being said, hunting is not a white man’s sport.
It belongs to us all, equally.

Hunters HUNT wild animals.
REAL HUNTERS know that they call it hunting, because there is no guarantee that on any given day you go hunting, that you will even catch sight of your prey. Wild animals have an excellent chance to elude any and all hunters. Think about it. We have limits and guidelines to ensure the animals we have reproduce and thrive will continue to do so in perpituity.
MOST wild animals never encounter a hunter. Even if they do, they still can and often do, successfully evade the hunter.
Many hunts end up with the score ” Home – 1 , Visitor – 0.”.

Dog fights don’t work that way.
Dogs are domesticated animals,
Bred to trust men.
There IS no HUNT.
There IS no evasion.
There’s ALWAYS a kill.
For the sake of witnessing violence.
And BETTING MONEY on it.
It’s not sport.
There’s no sport in forcing an animal to kill or be killed for gambling purposes.

Furthermore, Don’t assume dog fighting is a black activity,
While it may be gaining in popularity among gang types, it’s appeal has been mostly regional. Like Hunting, if you could see all the folks involved in dog fighting, you’d see MOSTLY whites. I’m pretty sure we started it. The free men of Rome were predominately white, and I believe dogfighting originated in this gladitorial enviornment.

There is no connection whatsoever between the sport of hunting and the crime of dogfighting.

Mr Vick was no arrested for any reason concerning race or hunting. He was arrested because he broke the law in a most inhumane manner, and,
…… when he gets off with less time than he deserves, it’s because he is RICH and FAMOUS, not because of civil rights concerns.

Q: Mum and Dad want to get a new cat. Am I being selfish?
I have five cats, and our oldest one has become really ill and are on prescribed drugs to get better. The other day he was litterly half dead, coz he wasn’t moving, and was being sick in he’s sleep. Anyway, my Dad went out while Mum and me were going to get school stuff, and when we come home Dad said he nearly done a Homer Simpson by going out on he’s own and buying a new cat. I said I won’t talk to them if they did get a new cat, in the state that my ill cat is. Then he sent my two brothers out to get the kitten from the store, but thankfully it wasn’t for sale because it was constipated. Anyway, Mum told them to phone other pet stores to see what tabby kittens they had. Our oldest cat is g etting better, but I told them I don’t want another cat until this one has gone, and I won’t want another for a long time after he has gone.
I don’t know if I’m just being selfish or if I’m being moody again.

A: You are not selfish. You are sensible. Having said if you live at your parents home, I guess they have a right to do so. How about you persuade them to rescue a cat?

Q: How do you go about reporting this situation?
My brother is 16 years old and he currently lives at home with our parents. The problem is, my stepmom is a substance abuser and has been for quite sometime now. My dad is not a substance abuser as far as I know, yet he allows the using and sale of drugs to go on in his home. My parents recently allowed 2 drug dealers to move into my brother’s bedroom and now he has no bedroom in his own house. He’s about to drop out of school and my parents don’t care. The house they live in is in very bad shape (dog and cat pee everywhere, dirty dishes and clothes everywhere, over-run with roaches, just unliveable conditions) and my stepsister who also lives there is about to have a baby in a month in which she will be bringing back to that house. There also is hardly any food in the house most of the time because the grocery money gets spent on drugs. What actions can be taken in reporting this activity? Would this be considered child neglect even though he’s 16?

A: You contact CPS and/or your local police dept and tell them of the situation and that you are willing to care for him if they cannot force your parents to move the dealers out, get off the substances or provide a clean, safe home environment.

If you want to remain anonymous, you call and tell them that you wish to remain anonymous because you do not want drug dealers killing you. Then you list several relatives that can take the child in. Giving your name first and then the others. They have to do a home study on any home the child goes to first anyway. And the person has to want him, so they will likely place him with you.

16 is still a minor. And yes, it is neglect and it is a crime. May God keep him safe until you get him out of there. ANd when you do, get him a therapist he can talk to to resolve the emotions that come from living like this. So he does not turn into a ball of anger that destroys his own future. He has to get help to deal with his feelings, because you know he has them so he can have a good life and succeed in school and in life.

Q: Why did Barack Obama and Max Baucus cave into the pharmaceutical lobby?
THE INFLUENCE GAME: Drug lobby’s health care win

(AP) WASHINGTON – Chalk one up for the pharmaceutical lobby. The U.S. drug industry fended off price curbs and other hefty restrictions in President Barack Obama’s health care law even as it prepares for plenty of new business when an estimated 32 million uninsured Americans gain health coverage.

To be sure, the law also levies taxes and imposes other costs on pharmaceutical companies, leaving its final impact on the industry’s bottom line uncertain. A recent analysis by Goldman Sachs, the Wall Street firm, suggests the overhaul could mean “a manageable hit” of tens of billions of dollars over the coming decade while bolstering the value of drug-company stocks. Others expect profits, not losses, of the same magnitude.

Either way, pharmaceutical lobbyists won new federal policies they coveted and set a trajectory for long-term industry growth. Privately, several of them say their biggest triumph was heading off Democrats led by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., who wanted even more money from their industry to finance the health care system’s expansion.

“Pharma came out of this better than anyone else,” said Ramsey Baghdadi, a Washington health policy analyst who projects a $30 billion, 10-year net gain for the industry. “I don’t see how they could have done much better.”

Costly brand-name biotech drugs won 12 years of protection against cheaper generic competitors, a boon for products that comprise 15 percent of pharmaceutical sales. The industry will have to provide 50 percent discounts beginning next year to Medicare beneficiaries in the “doughnut hole” gap in pharmaceutical coverage, but those price cuts plus gradually rising federal subsidies will mean more elderly people will purchase more drugs.

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S1488567.shtml?cat=11848

A: $$$$ talks and all others get tossed under the 0bama express

Q: How close is Barack Obama to the pharmaceutical and banking lobbyists?
(AP) WASHINGTON – Chalk one up for the pharmaceutical lobby. The U.S. drug industry fended off price curbs and other hefty restrictions in President Barack Obama’s health care law even as it prepares for plenty of new business when an estimated 32 million uninsured Americans gain health coverage.

To be sure, the law also levies taxes and imposes other costs on pharmaceutical companies, leaving its final impact on the industry’s bottom line uncertain. A recent analysis by Goldman Sachs, the Wall Street firm, suggests the overhaul could mean “a manageable hit” of tens of billions of dollars over the coming decade while bolstering the value of drug-company stocks. Others expect profits, not losses, of the same magnitude.

Either way, pharmaceutical lobbyists won new federal policies they coveted and set a trajectory for long-term industry growth. Privately, several of them say their biggest triumph was heading off Democrats led by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif., who wanted even more money from their industry to finance the health care system’s expansion.

“Pharma came out of this better than anyone else,” said Ramsey Baghdadi, a Washington health policy analyst who projects a $30 billion, 10-year net gain for the industry. “I don’t see how they could have done much better.”

Costly brand-name biotech drugs won 12 years of protection against cheaper generic competitors, a boon for products that comprise 15 percent of pharmaceutical sales. The industry will have to provide 50 percent discounts beginning next year to Medicare beneficiaries in the “doughnut hole” gap in pharmaceutical coverage, but those price cuts plus gradually rising federal subsidies will mean more elderly people will purchase more drugs.

http://kstp.com/article/stories/S1488567.shtml?cat=11848

Barack Obama (D)
Top Contributors

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2008 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization’s PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals’ immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
University of California $1,591,395
Goldman Sachs $994,795
Harvard University $854,747
Microsoft Corp $833,617
Google Inc $803,436
Citigroup Inc $701,290
JPMorgan Chase & Co $695,132
Time Warner $590,084
Sidley Austin LLP $588,598
Stanford University $586,557
National Amusements Inc $551,683
UBS AG $543,219
Wilmerhale Llp $542,618
Skadden, Arps et al $530,839
IBM Corp $528,822
Columbia University $528,302
Morgan Stanley $514,881
General Electric $499,130
US Government $494,820
Latham & Watkins $493,835

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&cid=N00009638

A: SO close that if they made a sudden stop it would require major surgery to ugh separate them…… in my opinion

Q: I feel like I’m losing touch with my boyfriend?
I have been with him for 2 years now, and when we first started dating we both had nothing, we worked our way up, re-located, got a dog and cat, have a nice loft in Vancouver BC (which is very costly) etc.
I have had the same job since we moved out here, which isn’t an “amazing” paying job, but it is secure and I only have room to move up.
My bf has had about 5 jobs since we’ve lived here, from construction, to temp work, to sales, and recently lost his job in sales for some “unexplainable” reason, and got recruited for another sales company which is similar to the job he was doing before.
For the 2 weeks where he wasn’t working, he was being a complete moron! I mean spending at least $1000 on alcohol, drugs, you name it! Saying “I’m just doing this because I know I have to get back to work soon… this is my time off”. Which is absolutely unacceptable because he wasn’t making any money to cover our losses, but putting us in a huge financial hole!
He has lost my trust because he continuously would buy this garbage and not tell me he had been dipping into our savings, then he’s apologize and then go out the next day and spend just as much if not more! I even took his bank card away, and he went as far as going to the bank with his ID saying he “forgot” his bank card at home to access money so he could buy more useless drugs and alcohol.!!!
Finally I lost it and said he has NO access to ANY alcohol or ANYTHING until he starts getting a paycheck, because now we are strained for money and our rent comes out on the 15th, and my entire paycheck for 2 weeks is going to have to go towards that.
He STILL went and bought alcohol yesterday, not once but 2 times!!! Then if that wasn’t bad enough, he went out and bought drugs AGAIN!!!
Now remember he has a job again in sales, starting tomorrow…. but honestly, I’ve totally lost all respect for him, I think he will fail this job as well as every other job he has ever done. Don’t get me wrong he is super smart and he always does AMAZING in a work place, but he never stays because he gets “bored”….!!!!
When he came to visit me today I didn’t even want to look at him, I don’t like kissing him, I think of cheating (which I have NEVER done before in my life with ANYONE) I can’t trust him and yet, I feel I can’t leave him!!!
1. I know I SHOULD break up, but at the same time, I know a strong enough person to get through all this
2. I also see that he is probably frustrated from all his failures that this is why he lashes out and acts like a complete moron
3. I do believe he can do well if he just stays focused
4. If I do stay with him… HOW DO I DEAL WITH HIM?! How can I show support with out wanting to smash his face?! He just disapoints me SO much!!!

What do I do? How do I deal with him!? How can we make this work?!!?!?!!?!? How can I make him see ITS OVER if he doesn’t SERIOUSLY get his sh!t together…. ps, I’ve told him I don’t know if I can be with him anymore because of this, and he is like “I just got a new job, I will make it up to you, I’ve been a real idiot and I know that, but I will make everything work out… in the end you always know I come through for you!!!” Which is true but HONESTLY how many times do we have to fall and suffer in a life time? How many times do we have to “restart” our lives!!!?

A: Your situation sounds a little like mine was. I ws the soul provider for so long in our relationship, he would get job after job but would not keep them because either he got “bored” with it or did something stupid to get fired. Now to me its sounds like he has a drug problem. You need to get him help ASAP before it really gets any worse. If he is doing all that just to go buy drugs and alcohol, then its going to get to the point when he doesn’t have money to take he is going to turn to other things. Selling items out the house, pawning things robing people. I really hope it don’t get that far but u never know. U will get tired of having everything on your shoulders paying all the bills by yourself. So you need to think what is best for you, should you leave him, send him to rehab or stick around and see what more damage he can do. You don’t want to get caught up in the drug thing either. I hope he doesn’t bring it in the house, never know who is watching. GOOD LUCK 2 U!!

Q: NSPCC and child neglect?
Hi ..to be honest i want peoples advice
I have this neighbour who lives across the street, she has two kids aged early teens
Well a few years ago she was a very attractive woman, but seeing her resentley was shocked she is very thin and fraile, my neighbour told me she was on drugs and then told me all sorts about her home and 13 cats and how she was at her house when a ‘dealer’ came and ordered her son to take of his tracksuit for payment because she owed money, and she told him to take it off she said the lad also seems on another planet and just took it off and gave it to them, and the other day she came to me and asked if i wanted to buy her daughters dolls !
i said no she then told me ‘the social hadn’t paid her and she had to food for the kids’ i looked over her house and she has a for sale sign for her kids stuff …what would you do would you report this ?
Sorry was meant to say No food for her kids
Its tough Charli ..cause the lad i think has some sort of special needs because he acts a lot like Thomas i hate to say this or i just hope he isn’t taking drugs too ..its scary that a mother would sell her kids things !
Ghiselle D
I know my neighbour is also on drugs she makes no secret of it and this is her ‘friend’ they are at each others house
Sorry proud mummy don’t want to sound mean but i wouldn’t let her in my house ..i have enough to cope with its just her kids i feel for x

A: Whatever is going on in that house, with that family, is tragic. This might sound strange to say, but perhaps reporting it might bring her some relief, to know that her kids could be helped after the situation (whatever it may be) is reported.

Q: I have a terrible roommate- what can I do?
So, we were in a desperate situation when our old roommate (an 18 year old girl) lost her job, totaled her car, and had to move back in with her parents. We scrambled to find a new roommate, and ended up with a nightmare.

My boyfriend and I are young (I’m 19 he’s 22), but we are mature for our age. He works in technology and I’m a student doing a double major. We don’t drink or party at all. Also, I’m a small girl, and, I’ll be honest, I’m pretty weak and get nervous around men I don’t know. So, when looking for a roommate, we tried to find someone more mature.

We ended up with this guy- he’s 35 years old. When first talking to him online, it seemed like he was mature and had his life together, something that is expected by age 35. We got something entirely different. I’ll list the issues we are having with him, and please tell me if these are reasonable issues and what I can do to feel safe in my house again.

-He works as a sales rep for a mortuary

- He doesn’t actually go to work very often (we originally thought it would be OK for me to live with a 35 year old man b/c he was going to be out of the house 9-5, and I would rarely be alone with him)

- He uses the kitchen and our stuff, which is fine, but he doesn’t clean up after himself. I used to ask him, but he mouthed off to me the last time I asked him to clean out his rotting fruit in the fridge, now I’m too scared.

- He’s an alcoholic. He is always drinking and is always drunk. (Always swaggering, bloodshot eyes, trembling, etc.)

- He got a DUI, went to jail because he kept drinking, then somehow got a company car while his license was still revoked.

- He is on a hefty cocktail of antipsychotics and sleeping pills. He is never fully there, and this scares me. He has severe panic attacks and had to be hospitalized for three days. We didn’t know where he was.

-He freaked out when we asked him to sign a standard lease, taking everything personally (“you think I’m a drug addict because it says illegal drugs aren’t allowed in the house”). We haven’t gotten him to sign anything except the lease at the office

-He’s a chain smoker- he smokes in the house when he’s not allowed to, and he always smells

- He sprays my cats with his (really nasty) cologne, then denies it. Obviously, if the cat smells like a bottle of PacSun cologne… it’s not like the cat sprayed himself

- He expects us to do all of his computer troubleshooting and repairs, and he expects my boyfriend to drop everything and help him with whatever he wants, whenever asked.

-He has a terrible temper, and gets very worked up about things and it is impossible to have a conversation with him

-His room is TRASHED, he keeps it like a 15 year old boy without parents. He is destroying the his room.

-He is severely financially unstable

Basically, I don’t feel safe in my house anymore. I’m always nervous when I come home, and I avoid being at the house if my boyfriend isn’t home from work yet. This man terrifies me, and I don’t know if there’s anything I can do about it. Finding a roommate was really hard, and our financial situation right now makes it a necessity. He has signed a lease at the office, so he is officially here. But, I don’t think I have any legal right to kick him out, since he hasn’t done anything illegal. I feel like he’s going to blow up sometime, and I don’t want to be there when it happens. I also want to stress that my boyfriend and I are in a healthy, stable relationship. Having him here to protect me is the only reason I haven’t left. He is very supportive, and he understands my dilemma with our roommate.

So, how can I find a way to feel safe in this situation? Also, considering the facts, are my feelings justified? I’m just very unsure about what I can, and should, do. I would like to see what other people think about this situation. Also, what can I do to feel better without confronting him? I think confronting him will just make the situation worse, especially because of his temper and drinking.

Thanks in advance, I’m sorry to be rambling. I’m just feeling a little trapped and powerless right now, and I need to find a way to manage the situation effectively. I don’t have very much experience with roommates.

*Note: We didn’t know these things about him before he moved in. We have slowly discovered them over the past few months.
Also- We cannot afford to kick him out, and we live in an apartment community. He is on the lease with the office (we all have an equal right to be here even though he was added later), and he would not sign a lease specific to our requirements in the house. We aren’t his landlord, and he has no contractual obligation to us.

My boyfriend and I both work, and I am also in school. There’s no extra time for another job.

When we were looking for a roommate initially, he was one of the only people interested, I don’t think it would be possible to find a replacement. We’re 15 minutes from the school so students usually aren’t interested since you have to drive.

What I need to know is: How can I deal with this situation WITHOUT kicking him out?

A: At 35, people are supposed to have their [stuff] together. I think you need to get him out. You can’t force an addict to clean themselves up. You also can’t force someone to seek medical help, and I think this man needs it.

You are going to have to talk to the landlord, since he’s on the lease and find out what your options are. Tell the landlord the whole thing. Type it up actually, so he can read the whole complaint. It’s the Landlord who has the right to kick him out.

You absolutely should not feel unsafe in your own home. If he’s under the influence, and has a rotten temper, AND can’t keep his own mess under control, this is no way for you to live. It sounds like he should be in a half-way house with all the prescriptions and booze.

I don’t mean to compound your feeling of being helpless, but some of these things were preventable.

You should have asked about the smoking before you invited him into your home. That’s like one of the standard questions.

If he didn’t sign the roommate contract, then he needed to get lost.

I realize it’s hard to find a room mate, but don’t limit yourself by ages – you two can’t be the only mature younger adults out there. Don’t give up.

You should absolutely not feel like you have to fear for your safety with a roommate!

Q: Don’t envy France’s health-care system?
Don’t envy France’s health-care system
So Cheryl Szpaichler (letter, “Moore has it right with ‘Sicko’ film,” July 10) envies the French because their government doesn’t siphon off their hard-earned money from their paycheck to pay for medical benefits.
Have you never watched the news or read a newspaper? The French income tax and sales tax (19 percent) together total about 50 percent of their hard-earned money.

Sure, they have socialized medicine, but don’t get sick in France, because the long lines for the treatment you require will be a long time coming. In the United States, if you need an MRI or CAT scan, you can get one in about three days, or immediately if it’s an emergency because of an accident.
If you need one in France, get in line. You might get an appointment as soon as, well, how does four months sound? Does that work for you?
Canada has the same socialized medicine and same wait time, and that is why many Canadians come to America for their medical needs.
Here’s another scenario that is for surely going to happen with socialized medicine. You may need operations, drugs and treatments, but the government will pick and choose who gets what. If you are 80 and need the same treatment a 20-year-old needs, guess whose name goes to the bottom of the list?
Our government cannot possibly take care of every single medical bill you have, and that’s why we have private insurance. The more the government provides, the more it’s going to cost you in taxes. It’s a proven fact that the more involved the government is in our lives, the poorer the service. Privatization is the answer, not socialism.
So instead of longing for the French way, be grateful you live in a free society where we still get to keep most of our earnings.

A: I agree

Q: Should California legalize marijuana for everybody not just medical patients?
Pot legalization gains momentum in California

(AP) SAN FRANCISCO – Marijuana advocates are gathering signatures to get at least three pot-legalization measures on the ballot in 2010 in California, setting up what could be a groundbreaking clash with the federal government over U.S. drug policy.

At least one poll shows voters would support lifting the pot prohibition, which would make the state of 40 million the first in the nation to legalize marijuana.

Such action would also send the state into a headlong conflict with the U.S. government while raising questions about how federal law enforcement could enforce its drug laws in the face of a massive government-sanctioned pot industry.

The state already has a thriving marijuana trade, thanks to a first-of-its-kind 1996 ballot measure that allowed people to smoke pot for medical purposes. But full legalization could turn medical marijuana dispensaries into all-purpose pot stores, and the open sale of joints could become commonplace on mom-and-pop liquor store counters in liberal locales like Oakland and Santa Cruz.

Read the rest here– http://kstp.com/news/stories/S976228.shtml?cat=1

A: They should. They’d make more money off taxing it, and spend less pretending trying to stop it.
Same way as cigarettes, cellophane pre-packaged amounts with a “tax” stamp to lessen smuggling.
Growers would have to sell to an auction house, and then to a distribution center, then to public stores.
Plenty of gravy for everybody.
edit:
Same rules as alcohol, age limit, no at school, work, driving (no open containers)… same/same.

Q: Tiresome British SECRET AGENTS ?
Here I am trying to earn an honest ( well perhaps not ) crust, via Global Domination. Then every month or two, this annoying chap keeps turning up, thwarting me at every turn…….
Whether its bringing down space rockets, holding the world to ransom, wiping out the Great Unwashed, setting up huge drug cartels, or increasing my wealth vis Gold reserves. One just cant get my businesses to be a success………..because of this damnable secret agent……………… whats a fellow to do ?
I mean I tell him my plans. make sure hes available to watch my meglamania in the control rooms by not killing him immediately, as well, he seduces my femmes to turn against me. Please advise…………….
ps I do have a cat
pps Any of my chums want to join me in my next venture
ppps Anyone know of cheap volcanoes up for sale ?

A: “Kill em All”
Its easier that way.

Q: one liner’s part 2. the even older sequel !!?
Love may be blind, but marriage is a real eye-opener.

Hell hath no fury like the lawyer of a woman scorned.

Bills travel through the post at twice the speed of cheques.

Hard work pays off in the future. Laziness pays off now.

Borrow money from pessimists- they don’t expect it back.

A conscience is what hurts when all your other parts feel so good.

If at first you don’t succeed, then skydiving definitely isn’t for you.

I couldn’t repair your brakes, so I made your horn louder.

Artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity

If at first you don’t succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don’t have film.

There’s no future in time travel.

Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.

Polynesia — memory loss in parrots.

A good pun is its own reword.

Laughing stock — cattle with a sense of huhumour

Wear short sleeves! Support your right to bare arms!

For sale: parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain.

A bartender is just a pharmacist with a limited inventory.

I said “no” to drugs, but they just wouldn’t listen.

Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

If we aren’t supposed to eat animals, why are they made of meat?

Consciousness: That annoying time between naps.

Give me ambiguity or give me something else.

Suicidal twin kills sister by mistake!

Always remember you’re unique, just like everyone else.

I wouldn’t be caught dead with a necrophiliac.

The gene pool could use a little chlorine.

All gegeneralisationsre false, including this one.

I’d give my right arm to be ambidextrous.

I want patience… AND I WANT IT NOW!!!!

The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.

I have friends who swear they dream in color…It’s just a pigment of their imagination.

There are 3 kinds of people: those who can count and those who can’t.

If one sysynchronisedwimmer drowns, do the rest have to drown too?

Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply.

It’s sad how whole families are torn apart by simple things, like wild dogs.

Karaoke is Japanese for “Tone Deaf”

On the other hand, you have different fingers.

A day without radiation is a day without sunshine.

A day without sunshine is like night.

A seminar on Time Travel will be held two weeks ago.

Alzheimer’s advantage: New friends every day.

An unbreakable toy is useful for breaking other toys

As I said before, I never repeat myself. As long as I can remember, I’ve had amnesia.

Bigamy: one wife too many.Monogamy: same thing

Bombs don’t kill people, explosions kill people.

Bureaucrats cut red tape, lengthwise.

Clairvoyants meeting cacancelledue to unforeseen events.

Clones are people two.

Cole’s Law: Thinly sliced cabbage.

Did ya hear? They took the word gullible out of the dictionary!

I want to die peacefully, in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming, terrified, like his passengers.

Do not put statements in the negative form.

Doesn’t expecting the unexpected make the unexpected become the expected?

If you try to fail, and succeed, which have you done?

Friction can be a drag sometimes.

He who places head in sand, will get kicked in the end!

How many of you believe in telekinesis? Raise MY hand!

Hypochondria is the only disease I haven’t got.

I bet you I could stop gambling.

I couldn’t care less about apathy.

Energizer Bunny Arrested! Charged with battery.

I like kids, but I don’t think I could eat a whole one.

I tried to daydream, but my mind kept wandering.

I used to be indecisive, now I’m not so sure.

I used to be schizophrenic, but we’re all right now.

If evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve.

A: WOW! – even better than the last ones :)
I was going to mention which ones were my favourite as well…but there were too many good ones to chose from!!

Q: With all the recalls I thought I would share:?
this is an actual research page I found when working for a home vet and she loved it so much that she put it on her page..read it with an open mind…and think…here is her page also if you are interested..http://www.carinrennings.com

(Don’t read if you have a weak stomach)
What’s Really for Dinner?
The Truth About Commercial Pet Food, by Tina Perry
Cow brains. Sheep guts. Chicken heads. Road kill. Rancid grain. These are a few of the so-called nutritionally balanced ingredients found in the commercial pet food served to companion animals every day.
More than 95 percent of US companion animals derive their nutritional needs from a single source: processed pet food. When people think of pet food, many envision whole chickens, choice cuts of beef, fresh grains, and all the nutrition that a dog or cat may ever need — images that pet food manufacturers promote in their advertisements. What these companies do not reveal is that instead of whole chickens they have substituted chicken heads, feet, and intestines. Those choice cuts of beef are really cow brains, tongues, esophagi, fetal tissue dangerously high in hormones, and possibly diseased and even cancerous meat. Those whole grains have had the starch removed for corn starch powder and the oil extracted for corn oil, or they are hulls and other remnants from the milling process. Grains used that are truly whole have usually been deemed unfit for human consumption because of mold, contaminants, poor quality, or poor handling practices. Pet food is one of the world’s most synthetic edible products, containing virtually no whole ingredients.
Pet food manufacturers have become masters at inducing companion animals to eat things cat and dogs would normally spurn. Pet food scientists have learned that it’s possible to take a mixture of inedible scraps, fortify it with artificial vitamins and minerals, preserve it so that it can sit on the shelf for more than a year, add dyes to make it attractive, and then extrude it into whimsical shapes that appeal to the human consumer. For this, pet food companies can expect to earn $9 billion in sales in 1996.
Scraps and Byproducts For years, many care givers have tried to avoid feeding their companion animals people food leftovers, having been warned by veterinarians about the heath problems they can cause. Yet much scrap material from the human food industry is ending up in dogs and cat’s dinner bowls. What the consumer purchases and what the manufacturer advertises are often two entirely different products, and this difference threatens the animals healthy, especially as they age. Learning to read ingredient labels and taking the time to read them carefully is crucial to making an educated choice when purchasing pet food. Ingredients are listed in descending order of weight (heaviest first) under standards established by the Center for Veterinary Medicine for the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The name of the product (in most states) is dictated by the regulations of the American Association of Feed Control Officials (AAFCO). The trouble is, AAFCO standards can lead to deceptive product names due to the weight and volume variations between wet and dry ingredients. Also, the average consumer has no idea what the definitions for the listed ingredients mean. Preservatives, vitamins, minerals, flavorings, and cereal make up most of what the companion animal eats.
It is not happenstance that four of the top five major pet food companies in the United States are subsidiaries of major multinational food production companies: Colgate Palmolive (which produces Hills Science Diet), Heinz, Nestle, and Mars )see The Corporate Connection). From a business standpoint, multi-national food companies owning pet food manufacturers is an ideal relationship. The multinationals have captive market in which to dump their waste products, and the pet food manufacturers have a direct source of bulk materials. Both make a profit from selling scraps that originate from places far worse than the dinner table. In his 1986 book Pet Allergies veterinarian Al Plechner sums up what goes into companion animals food: Condemned parts and animals rejected for human consumption are routinely rerouted for commercial pet foods. A similar fate applies to so-called 4-D animals. These are food animals picked up dead, or that are dying, diseased, or disabled, and do not meet human-food qualifications. They are processed straightaway for companion animal consumption. Little goes to waste. Says Plechner, Food processing refuse of all sorts winds up in your animals dinner bowls. Moldy grains. Rancid foods. Meat meal. The latter is ground-up slaughterhouse discards often containing disease-ridden tissue and high levels of hormones and pesticides, the very things that may have contributed to the death of the steer or hog. A decade later, his words still apply. When cattle, swine, chickens, lambs, or other animals meet their ends at a slaughterhouse, the choice cuts — lean muscle tissue and organs prized by humans — are trimmed away from the carcass for human consumption. Whatever remains of the carcass (bones, blood, pus, intestines, ligaments, subcutaneous fat, hooves, horns, beaks, and
any other parts not normally consumed by humans) is, according to the pet food industry, perfectly fit as a protein source for cat and dog food.
The Pet Food Institute, the trade association of pet food manufacturers, acknowledges in its 1994 Fact Sheet the importance of using byproducts in pet foods as additional income for processors and farmers. The purchase and use of these ingredients by the pet food industry not only provides nutritional foods for pets at reasonable costs, but provides an important source of income to American farmers and processors of meat, poultry, and seafood products for human consumption. Many of these remnants are indigestible and provide a questionable source of nutrition. The amount of nutrition provided by meat byproducts, meals, and digests varies from vat to vat of this animal protein soup. A vat filled with chicken feet, beaks, and viscera is going to make available a lower amount of protein than a vat of breast meat. James Morris and Quinton Rogers, professors with Department of Molecular Biosciences at the University of California at Davis Veterinary School of Medicine, assert that there is virtually no information on the bio-availability of nutrients for companion animals in many of the common dietary ingredients used in pet foods. These ingredients are generally byproducts of the meat, poultry and fishing industries, with the potential for wide variation in nutrient composition. Claims of nutritional adequacy of pet foods based on the current AAFCO nutrient allowances (profiles) do not give assurances of nutritional adequacy and will not until ingredients are analyzed and bioavailability values are incorporated. Meat byproducts, the catch-all term of the pet food industry, is a misnomer because these byproducts contain little if any meat. Byproducts contain little if any meat. Byproduct are animal parts leftover after the meat has been stripped from the bone. Chicken byproducts include heads, feet, entrails, lungs, spleens, kidneys, brains, livers, stomachs, noses, blood, and intestines free of their contents. What the pet food manufactures fail to mention is that most byproducts, digests and meals are also filled with other substances, such as cancerous tissue cut from the carcass, plastic foam packaging containing spoiled meat from supermarkets, ear tags, spoiled slaughterhouse meat, road kill, and pieces of downer animals.
Canned Cannibalism Another source of meat that isn’t mentioned on pet food labels is pet byproducts, the bodies of dogs and cats. In 1990 the San Francisco Chronicle reported that euthanized companion animals were found in pet foods. Although pet food company executives and the National Renderers Association vehemently denied the report, the American Veterinary Medical Association and the FDA confirmed the story. The pets serve a viable purpose by providing foodstuff for the animal feed chain, said Lea McGovern, chief of the FDA’s animal feed safety branch. Because of the sheer volume of animals rendered and the similarity in protein content between poultry byproducts and processed dogs and cats, rendering plant workers say it would be impossible for purchasers to know the exact contents of what they buy. In fact, Sacramento Rendering cited by inspectors five times in the past two years for product-labeling violations.
Grease and Grain
The most nutritious dry pet food is no better than the worst if animals will not eat it. Pet food scientists have discovered that spraying the kibble or pellets with a combination of refined animal fat, lard, kitchen grease, and other oils too rancid or deemed inedible for humans makes an otherwise bland or distasteful product palatable. Animal fat is mainly packing house waste or supermarket trimmings from the packaging of meats. Animals love the taste of this sprayed fat, which also acts as a binding agent to which manufacturers may add other flavor enhancers. The pungent odor wafting from an open bag of pet food is created by this concoction. Restaurant grease has become a major component of feed-grade animal fat over the last 15 years. Often held in 50-gallon drums for weeks or months in extreme temperatures, this grease is usually kelp outside with no regard for its safety or further use. The rancid grease is then picked up by fat blenders who mix the animal and vegetable fats together, stabilize them with powerful antioxidants to prevent further spoilage, and then sell the blended products to pet food companies. Rancid, heavily preserved fats are extremely difficult to digest and can lead to a host of animal health problems, including digestive upsets, diarrhea, gas, and bad breath. Once considered filler by the pet food industry, the amount of grain products included in pet food has risen over the last decade as the American population has focused its attention away from consuming beef and toward a healthier diet of grains and vegetables. Commonly two of the top three pet food ingredients are some form of grain products. For instance, Alpo’s Beef Flavored Dinner lists ground yellow corn, soybean meal, and poultry byproduct meal as its top three ingredients. 9 Lives Crunchy Meals lists ground yellow corn, corn gluten meal, and poultry byproduct meal as its top three ingredients. Of the top four ingredients of Purina’s O.N.E. Dog Formula — chicken, ground yellow corn, ground wheat, and corn gluten meal — two are corn-based products from the same source. This is an industry practice known as splitting. When components of the same whole ingredient are listed separately (ground yellow corn and corn gluten meal) it appears that
there is less corn than chicken, even when the whole ingredient may weigh more than the chicken. Soy is another common ingredient in many pet foods. It is used by the manufacturers to boost the claimed protein content and add bulk so that when animals eat a product containing soy they will fell more sated. Tofu is suitable for humans, but most forms of soybean do not agree with a dog or cat’s digestive system. Like many other pet food ingredients, soy is virtually unusable by an animal’s body. Being obligate carnivores, cats have little ability to digest any nutrients from soy. The problem is worse for dogs because they lack the essential amino acid to digest soy products. Soy has also been linked to bloat and gas in many dogs.
Additives and Processing
Pet food industry critics note that many of the ingredients (such as corn syrup and corn gluten meal) used as humectants to prevent oxidation also bind water molecules in such a way that the food actually sticks to the animal’s colon and may cause blockage. Blockage of the colon may cause an increased risk of cancer of the colon or rectum. Two-thirds of the pet food manufactured in the United States contains synthetic preservatives added by the manufacturer. Of the remaining third, 90 percent includes ingredients already stabilized by synthetic preservatives. Because most pet food contains large percentages of added fat, a stabilizer is needed to maintain the quality of the food. Sodium nitrite, often used as a coloring agent, fixative, and preservative, has the ability to combine with natural stomach and food chemicals (secondary amends) to create nitrosamines, powerful cancer-causing agents, according to A Consumer’s Dictionary of Food Additives.
Many pet foods advertised as preservative-free do not contain preservatives. Almost all rendered meats have synthetic preservatives added as stabilizer, but manufacturers aren’t required to list preservatives they themselves haven’t added. Premixed vitamin additives can also contain preservatives. In the 1003 Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, veterinarian Philip Roudebush reported finding low concentrations of synthetic antioxidant preservatives in all analyzed samples of products labeled as chemical free or all-natural. Other types of additives depend on whether the pet food is semi-moist, dry or canned. Because semi-moist food contains 25-50 percent water, antimicrobial preservatives must be used. Propylene glycol was frequently used in cat food until it was pulled in 1992 for causing a variety of health problems. Processing greatly alters the nutritional value of the food ingredients. Veterinarian R. L. Wysong states in Rationale for Animal Nutrition: Processing is the wild card in nutritional value that is, by and large, simply ignored. Heating, freezing, dehydrating, canning, extruding, pelleting, baking and so forth, are so commonplace that they are simply thought of as synonymous with food itself. Because the ingredients that pet food companies use are not wholesome, and harsh manufacturing practices destroy what little nutritional value the food may have had in the first place, the final product must be fortified with vitamins and minerals.
Questionable Nutrition
How, then, can any pet food be guaranteed to be 100 percent complete or nutritionally adequate? As long as it meets the AAFCO minimum standards, such a guarantee can be on the label. Yet in 1994, feed tests conducted by the New York State Agriculture Department showed 7 percent of all pet foods analyzed failed chemical analyses for guaranteed nutrients. Other states report similar findings, with failure of analyzed feed ranging from to 12 percent. Even if a pet food meets AAFCO standards, certain nutritional requirements (for example, lysine) can vary between species by as much as seven-fold. Although manufacturers clam that millions of companion animals can thrive on a diet consisting of nothing by commercial pet food, research and an increasing number of veterinarians implicate processed pet food as a source of disease or as an exacerbating agent for a number of degenerative diseases. For example, kidney disease is on of the top three killers of companion animals. According to Plechner, the extra protein and harsh ingredients of many pet foods place an overload on the kidneys. Left untreated, the toxic buildup leads to vomiting, loss of appetite, uremic poisoning, and death. Wysong adds, In the last few years, large statistical studies have shown the link between the diet (of processed foods) and a variety of degenerative diseases, including cancer, heart disease, allergies, arthritis, obesity, dental disease, etc. After extensive research, the Animal Protection Institute (API) published a Pet Food Investigative Report to educate companion animal care givers about pet food ingredients, ingredient definitions, labeling, and dietary ailments resulting from processed commercial pet food, including the most commonly know brands. Yet, whether such food is purchased at the supermarket, pet store, or from a veterinarian, it makes little difference in terms of the quality — only in the cost. Since the report was published earlier this year, API has conducted more research on holistic pet care and pet food alternatives, but still claims that the vast majority of pet foods available on the market today provide less that optimum nutrition for companion animals.
It is sad to think that the food provided by animal care givers to their four-legged friends could be hazardous to the animals’; health and longevity. Care givers should assume responsibility for providing as healthful a diet as possible for the animals in the care. Consumers should be informed: speak with a holistic practitioner or herbalist, or consult your veterinarian (but be aware that a veterinarian’s knowledge of nutrition may be limited to the two weeks of nutrition he or she had veterinary school 20 years ago). Although the ideal solution would be for companion animals to be fed only wholesome homemade and/or vegetarian diets, this is not an optician for everyone — the cost and time commitment is sometimes prohibitive. By taking more moderate steps, however, care givers can still greatly improve companion animals’ diet and quality of life.
EDIT: On Carin Rennings page she lists recommended diets… she really researched them and its really helpful….go check it out..smile
EDIT EDIT: sorry but it is still happening to the person that said its not… when I did my research I asked around and found out that the people that picked up the dead pets from the vets offices that did not want a private creamation actually had a company come in and pick the bodies up…really sick…valley protien I think was the name of the company…
I am not just trying to “SCARE” people …here is more proof….read this article JUST WRITTEN!! and see for yourself whats in your pet foods!!

http://www.petfoodreport.com/aboutpetfood.htm#ingredients
Edit: as far as ill timing and such… I think its just the right time!! people need to open their eyes…so sorry you 2 feel that way…smile

http://www.api4animals.org/facts.php?p=359&more=1

A: Thanks for the research and letting others see it. Those who are new pet owners should know about it, if they don’t already.

Q: what do you think of these quotes?
william s. borroughs

A cat’s rage is beautiful, burning with pure cat flame, all its hair standing up and crackling blue sparks, eyes blazing and sputtering.
William S. Burroughs

A functioning police state needs no police.
William S. Burroughs

A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what’s going on.
William S. Burroughs

Admittedly, a homosexual can be conditioned to react sexually to a woman, or to an old boot for that matter. In fact, both homo – and heterosexual experimental subjects have been conditioned to react sexually to an old boot, and you can save a lot of money that way.
William S. Burroughs

After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn’t do it. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to live in a society where the only people allowed guns are the police and the military.
William S. Burroughs

After one look at this planet any visitor from outer space would say ‘I want to see the manager.’
William S. Burroughs

America is not a young land: it is old and dirty and evil before the settlers, before the Indians. The evil is there waiting.
William S. Burroughs

Anything that can be done chemically can be done by other means.
William S. Burroughs

Artists to my mind are the real architects of change, and not the political legislators who implement change after the fact.
William S. Burroughs

Be just and if you can’t be just, be arbitrary.
William S. Burroughs

Black magic operates most effectively in preconscious, marginal areas. Casual curses are the most effective.
William S. Burroughs

Desperation is the raw material of drastic change. Only those who can leave behind everything they have ever believed in can hope to escape.
William S. Burroughs

Every man has inside himself a parasitic being who is acting not at all to his advantage.
William S. Burroughs

Happiness is a byproduct of function, purpose, and conflict; those who seek happiness for itself seek victory without war.
William S. Burroughs

How I hate those who are dedicated to producing conformity.
William S. Burroughs

Hustlers of the world, there is one mark you cannot beat: the mark inside.
William S. Burroughs

I am getting so far out one day I won’t come back at all.
William S. Burroughs

I had not taken a bath in a year nor changed my clothes or removed them except to stick a needle every hour in the fibrous grey wooden flesh of heroin addiction. I did absolutely nothing.
William S. Burroughs

In deep sadness there is no place for sentimentality.
William S. Burroughs

In my writing I am acting as a map maker, an explorer of psychic areas, a cosmonaut of inner space, and I see no point in exploring areas that have already been thoroughly surveyed.
William S. Burroughs

Junk is the ideal product… the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy.
William S. Burroughs

Language is a virus from outer space.
William S. Burroughs

Like all pure creatures, cats are practical.
William S. Burroughs

Man is an artifact designed for space travel. He is not designed to remain in his present biologic state any more than a tadpole is designed to remain a tadpole.
William S. Burroughs

Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who can’t mind their own business, because they have no business of their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has.
William S. Burroughs

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
William S. Burroughs

Our national drug is alcohol. We tend to regard the use any other drug with special horror.
William S. Burroughs

Perhaps all pleasure is only relief.
William S. Burroughs

Silence is only frightening to people who are compulsively verbalizing.
William S. Burroughs

Smash the control images. Smash the control machine.
William S. Burroughs

Sometimes paranoia’s just having all the facts.
William S. Burroughs

The aim of education is the knowledge, not of facts, but of values.
William S. Burroughs

The cat does not offer services. The cat offers itself. Of course he wants care and shelter. You don’t buy love for nothing.
William S. Burroughs

The face of evil is always the face of total need.
William S. Burroughs

The only possible ethic is to do what one wants to do.
William S. Burroughs

The way to kill a man or a nation is to cut off his dreams, the way the whites are taking care of the Indians: killing their dreams, their magic, their familiar spirits.
William S. Burroughs

There couldn’t be a society of people who didn’t dream. They’d be dead in two weeks.
William S. Burroughs

Which came first the intestine or the tapeworm?
William S. Burroughs

You can’t fake quality any more than you can fake a good meal.
William S. Burroughs

Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative.
William S. Burroughs

A: .wow there are a few quotes.. I myself do not think a great deal of them at all as they are all open to variables. Here is one that is not so open for example… there is a man his name is Luigi now Luigi he builds these fifty fine houses on the hill side… Luigi he says do you think they call me Luigi the house builder…. no they don’t call me Luigi the house builder, so he builds fifty fine boats on the harbour and says you think they call me Luigi the boat builder? no they don’t they call me Luigi the boat builder- I fcuk one goat….

Q: What should their names be?
I’m writing a story and need help with names.

Family #1

Mother- Very kind and caring. She loves her 3 kids and works very hard at her job as a veterinarian in the rural town 20 miles away from the family’s home. She has a soft heart and brings home helpless animals sometimes. She is obedient to her husband.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/8693054/2/istockphoto_8693054-veterinarian.jpg

Father- He is very stubborn and believes his word is law . He loves his family but doesn’t show it very often. He owns a small business and is grumpy when sales are down. He often brings his work to home frustrating the kids.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/7749602/2/istockphoto_7749602-mature-man-portrait.jpg

13 Year old girl- She is very independent and shy. She loves spending time with her mother and feels a little scared of her father. She is an amazing math student and is in 2 years advanced in it. She tries to be happy and smiles a lot. Her best friend is the 12 year old from the second family. She wants to be an astronaut.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4123700/2/istockphoto_4123700-speed-reader.jpg

7 year old boy- He is a video game addict who would love to skip school to play video games all day. He doesn’t show much emotion but will cry when his games are taken away. He loves cats and will pet them. He has trouble making friends and would want to become a web designer.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/2611359/2/istockphoto_2611359-gaming-mad-two.jpg

3 year old girl- She is a little bundle of joy who loves animals. She smiles all of the time and laughs constantly. She goes with her mother to work and plays with the animals. Everyone who meets her loves her.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3159149/2/istockphoto_3159149-girl-and-dog.jpg

Family #2
Mother- She is a cheerleader coach who spends all of her time with her students. Her kids don’t really know her because she is never with them. Everyone assumes she does drugs and considers her an outsider.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/6807869/2/istockphoto_6807869-go-team.jpg

16 year old girl- She is the mother of the household. She cooks and cleans and cares for the 6 year old. She has good grades and could go to an Ivy League college. She is mature and would like to become a biologist.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/10385952/2/istockphoto_10385952-student.jpg

14 year old boy- A true boy who spends all of his time skateboarding and playing sports. He is lonely when he’s with his family but feels close to his little sisters. He has average grades and is tutored by his older sister. He is amazing at sports and loves to play them.

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/4981516/2/istockphoto_4981516-smiling-teenager.jpg

12 year old girl- She is very quiet and would love to fit in with everyone else. She feels she needs to spend time with her mother but doesn’t want to because she is scared. The mother from #1 treats her like a daughter. She is very good at volleyball and would like to go to the Olympics. http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/7375685/2/istockphoto_7375685-young-girl-isolated-on-white.jpg

6 year old girl- She is treated like a baby. Her oldest sister is like her mother and she hates her real mom. She likes to do crafts and is very creative. She wants to become famous artist and and writer. http://www.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/8161193/2/istockphoto_8161193-laughing-girl-with-book.jpg

Thanks in advance!

A: FAMILY #1
Mother- Lucy Marie
Father- Daniel Gregory
13 year old daughter- Lydia Rose
7 year old boy- Charles Alexander (Charlie)
3 year old daughter- Josephine Isabelle (Josie)

FAMILY #2
Mother- Deborah Fae (Debbie)
16 year old daughter- Katherine Dawn (Katie or Kate)
14 year old boy- Joseph Connor (Joe) or Connor Joseph
12 year old girl- Amanda Katrina
6 year old- Jessica Lily or Lily Annabelle

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